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Um, wow. Just…. wow. This person clearly does not like Ron at all (do they even like HP as a series? Hard to tell tbh), and since I love Ron, obviously I’m going to disagree. I will say, however, that these arguments seem really outlandish and kind of stupid; I would have understood them more if they were based on something tangible. Let’s have a look, then:
The lowest point of almost any story in the entire series is when Ron inevitably sells Harry and/or Hermione out for some stupid reason that we rationalize with him being the youngest male in the family even though Ginny’s a pretty exemplary person and yes it’d be different for a female but the Weasley siblings gave her a pretty hard time too
Okay, first of all - there are several points in the series that are “lower” than Ron “selling” Harry and Hermione out (which he never does). That time when Sirius died was a pretty low point. Come to think of it, Dumbledore dying was also kind of sucky. Dobby and Cedric too. In fact, Harry walking the Green Mile to his own death could be counted as maybe up there, but nope I totally agree, that one time where Ron wasn’t talking to Harry was so much worse than all these things put together.
Second - the majority of us read these books when we were very young (looking through this person’s harry potter tag, I see that they did too), and thus we tend to like the characters we identify with, especially when it comes to the Trio. I don’t know why - maybe it’s because we don’t get to see his POV or his emotional process, like we do with Harry - but the people who don’t identify with Ron, or who can’t understand why he the acts the way he does - as the youngest of six brothers and the best friend of basically the most famous person in the world - seem more inclined to think he is a bad character and villify him for his actions in GOF and DH.
There’s simply no way or explaining or justifying Ron’s actions to someone who hasn’t or doesn’t realise that they’ve felt the same way Ron does at some point in their lives: that you’re second best, that nothing you ever do will be good enough, even if when you try your hardest, that because you are not extraordinary it means you don’t count or that you’re unimportant. It’s a horrible feeling to have, and it’s so very human - who out there knows, for sure, that they’re the absolute best at something? It’s something everyone, and especially younger people, have to contend with.
Ron gets angry in GOF because he thinks, for the first time, that Harry has gone out and sought the public eye - and more than that, he thinks Harry lied to him. Ron feels just as betrayed as Harry does, except we don’t get to see that because we follow Harry, and we know that he didn’t enter his own name into the Goblet. Harry feels like crap during the whole ordeal, so people naturally hedge that blame on Ron, but Ron isn’t acting out of spite, and it doesn’t make him a bad person or a bad character because he gets frustrated with his lot in life.
To Ron, Harry is rich, and famous, and has never felt like he was not good enough, and these are the things that Ron desires. It’s all there, in the book - Harry goes to the Mirror of Erised and sees himself with a big family (like Ron’s) and Ron sees himself as Quidditch captain and Head Boy (aka popular and (relatively) famous, like Harry). Ron and Harry are each other’s foils. And it’s part of what makes them so cohesive - they don’t always get on, but they’re almost dependent one another, because it’s really like they’re brothers. It’s like they’ve known each other for their whole lives.
This, of course, is extrapolated by the crazy shit they get themselves into. It’s one of those unspoken things, but Ron sticks by Harry through a lot. Giant chess sets and underground caverns beneath girl’s toilets and polyjuice potion and getting beaten up by Harry’s father’s friends - not only does Ron stick by Harry, he throws himself right in there next to him. His anger in DH isn’t sudden, it’s overdue, and I think it says a lot about the nature of the Harry/Ron relationship that it takes a Horcrux to tear them apart.
Harry, Ron and Hermione are friends because they genuinely like one another. And no, it’s no just because Ron is the first person Harry met on the way to Hogwarts - he met Draco in Diagon Alley before going to school and knew pretty much on the spot that he didn’t like him. At the end of the day, Ron is the one who is sitting next to Harry when his scar starts to hurt; who literally breaks the chains that hold him down at Privet Drive; who takes Harry into the magical world; who becomes his family.
And as for the Ginny comparison, that doesn’t really factor into Ron’s character at all? He feels pressured because he’s the youngest of six sons and because he knows his parents wanted a daughter; it’s like he’s just a spare and that his parents love Ginny more. That’s a fucking horrible concept (even if it isn’t true) to grow up with.
Ron’s eerily scheduled betrayal of his friends is so consistent that Dumbledore actually had to include a clause in his will to account for it
His will
His fucking willYes? Dumbledore’s will is basically Help Harry Find the Horcruxes 101 because he knew he’d be bowing out at the end of HBP. Dumbledore has always known that Ron has issues with feeling second best, and knowing that, I don’t think it’s particularly hard to see that Ron would argue and potentially leave in DH. They’re in the middle of a war, and Ron has been constantly choosing to stay with Harry and stay in the midst of danger (which he doesn’t care about) and put his family in danger (which he does care about), all because he loves Harry and wants to support him and help him fight Voldemort. I’m sure Dumbledore factored in the effect Horcruxes have as well, and was putting a contingency plan in, just in case. This doesn’t reflect on Ron as a person or a character?
Ron and Hermione as a couple makes basically no sense because Hermione is pretty much repulsed by everything Ron is and kind of only hangs around him out of some bizarre sense of endearment and he spends six books verbally abusing her and then decides he wants to hook up with her and starts studying how to emotionally manipulate her instead and it’s fucking weird
Did you… read these books? Ron and Hermione have always felt strongly about one another. In PS it’s annoyance, followed by friendship, in POA it’s a stubborn sort of anger, it OOTP it’s pining and in HBP it’s confusion, but it’s a constant. They cannot help but feel strongly for one another because that’s the way it always been, and it’s just second nature to them. I would hesitate to say that Ron and Hermione fall in love because they have always been in love - but I would definitely say the love they have for each other grows and expands, especially when they are put in danger when they get embroiled in Harry’s yearly Plot I Have To Solve. They grow and develop as people and so does their relationship. So to say that Hermione hangs out with Ron out of some bizarre sense of endearment is a very simplistic reading of their relationship.
Second, Ron does not spend six books verbally abusing her. At all. He teases her in Philosopher’s Stone, yes, but this is one of the only times it gets even close to “verbal abuse”. Does this make him a bad person? No, it makes him an eleven year old who feels embarrassed because someone else showed him up. From then on Ron and Hermione have a confrontational relationship, in that any feelings they have for one another come out in a form of frustration, and this is most definitely two-sided. Remember that time Hermione sent birds to attack Ron? Or physically attacked him in DH? It’s not abuse, it is their relationship; it runs on high tempers.
and then decides he wants to hook up with her
…I just… wow I am seriously smh right now.
R/Hr does not happen earlier in the seris because their feelings bring out their insecurities. This is very normal for a teenage relationship, and it’s one of the reasons R/Hr feels so natural - because it could be real. This is a relationship that blooms when they’re teenagers but doesn’t mature until they’re out fighting in the war, and it’s only then that they’re capable of going a step further. Before Deathly Hallows, both of them (but especially Ron) simply aren’t ready for a serious relationship, and on some level they know that, and so they don’t act on it.
Ron is afraid to enter into a romantic relationship with Hermione because he worries what she thinks of him. This is inherent in Ron’s character, and he’s projecting a lot of his own fears onto her. In Ron’s eyes he’s still the youngest male Weasley and Harry Potter’s best friend, and nothing he does will ever live up to what the rest of his family or Harry has done. And conversely, Hermione worries that Ron still sees her as a bossy know-it-all, and not as someone he can have a relationship with.
But the beauty of Ron and Hermione is that their opinions of one another are the exact opposite of this. Hermione has never seen Ron in the context of his familial position, and simply knows him as Ron, her friend - the boy she saw beat a giant chess set, the kid who sticks by his friends even if it’s the stupid move, the idiot who tried to ~~defend her honour~~ by casting a curse with a broken wand. And Ron is constantly admiring Hermione’s intelligence, her strength, her tenacity. They fight and they bicker because they don’t know how to channel their feelings for one another, but Ron is in awe of Hermione, and Hermione is stunned by him. Like the best of couples - and the best of friends - Ron and Hermione know each other incredibly well, and it’s like they’re there to support one another, and it’s an amazing thing because that’s what they always do.
and starts studying how to emotionally manipulate her instead and it’s fucking weird
lmao he reads a book on how to charm women - which Harry does too. SUCH A HORRIBLE HUMAN GUYS DAMN
Basically the only character who matches Ron in terms of loathsomeness is Umbridge and at least she stuck to her guns and stood up for something she believed in even if that particular thing was incredibly vile and sinister
I assume this person means morally loathsome instead of constructively, as Umbridge is an incredibly well constructed character. Which means that this person thinks in a series that contains the likes of Vernon and Petunia Dursley, Bellatrix Black, Peter Pettigrew and a dude who murders people to split his soul apart, Ron is the second most loathsome character. Round of applause.
He is the worst protagonist by far even if he isn’t the worst character in the series which I’m going to assert anyway
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#don’t ever be in an argument with apriki #she’ll beat yo ass #apriki and ron appreciation life
Um, wow. Just…. wow. This person clearly does not like Ron at all (do they even like HP as a series? Hard to tell tbh),...
I’M CRYING BECAUSE THIS IS SO AWESOME